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## Werewolf 9 - So this physicist walks into the h-bar...

 Amarth 2 years ago You awake with a sudden jolt. Ouch. Headache. Legs feeling like lead. What happened yesterday? You vaguely remember dreaming about the last few days. Building a dream from your memory is the easiest way of losing your grasp of what's real and what is a dream. Have to be careful here.No one else is around. You have breakfast, exit the hotel and you go to the main lecture hall of the institute. On the blackboard, someone chalked a table.`Player Good Evil Dead 1 72.93% 27.07% 10.12%2 64.42% 35.58% 0.00% 3 70.63% 29.37% 27.91%4 71.09% 28.91% 10.20%5 71.32% 28.68% 0.00% 6 75.38% 24.62% 12.73%7 68.48% 31.52% 0.00% 8 75.84% 24.16% 10.28%9 68.40% 31.60% 7.98% 10 61.50% 38.50% 0.00% `So someone did the maths. Some genius or lunatic actually took the ridiculous idea (wasn't that just a dream?) and they calculated the numbers.Well, you're a scientist, dammit. There has to be a way to use this information in your advantage!Sorry for being early, but I had all the night actions in, some free time, and I thought what the hell, why would anybody care if it's too soon.Some explanation about the numbers and the night actions.Percentages are based on the non-collapsed universes. Remember, universes collapse when they become internally inconsistent. 'Good' means the universes where the player is seer or villager. 'Evil' are the ones where they are wolf. 'Dead' is the percentage of universes in which they are dead.Wolves follow a hierarchy. There's an alpha wolf, a beta wolf, etc. In each universe, only the highest ranked wolf still alive kills. So this means that if player one attacks player two, and player one has (say) 5% probability of being the alpha wolf (so in 5 out of 100 worlds, he is the alpha wolf), then player two is dead in those worlds. So it doesn't make sense to attack someone more than once. Wolves also can't attack other wolves, so the universes where player two is a lower-ranked wolf have now collapsed.Seer visions are determined up to the good/evil level, as above. Seer visions are only true when you are the actual seer, otherwise the result is random (with the current good/evil probabilities of the player). This might be hard to wrap your head around (took me a few days) but it's actually easy: all inconsistent universes (where player one is the seer but his target has alignment opposed to a vision he got) have collapsed, and once the seer is outed, all inconsistent universes (where he is not the seer) also collapse, so only the ones consistent with the seer's visions are left over. Note that, again, it doesn't make sense to target the same player twice, you'll get the same result (but another player might get a different result!)When a player dies, their role gets fixed. This happens by a random pick, with the current role probabilities (ie a random universe is picked with uniform probability). This might have consequences on other players, especially if he is the seer or if he is a wolf. If, due to some circumstances (collapsing universes), you can only still have one role, you will be notified.The line between rule questions and strategy questions might be thin, so I'll be completely arbitrary on what questions I answer, mainly so I can enjoy the confusion. Sounds fair? But feel free to ask any questions you still have though.It is now day. As in usual werewolf, you can vote for mayor (this works across all universes) and you can vote for lynch.Dusk at Friday the 12th, 23h59. # quote
 Narvius 2 years ago Can we have the number of remaining universes? ...I guess not :/ # quote
 Amarth 2 years ago "Narvius" said:Can we have the number of remaining universes? ...I guess not :/*shrug*1304. Though I won't keep telling you in the future.You see why I don't run this by hand? # quote
 MageKing17 2 years ago I nominate myself for mayor, because there's not really an advantage to nominating somebody else in this game. # quote
 Murska 2 years ago I nominate myself as well, and I even have a good basis on it that I won't name for obvious reasons.Hmm. This lynch will be essentially random, for now. Anyone with an 'evil' scry vision, I suppose? # quote
 E_net4 2 years ago Since this is meant to be random, I will make it even more by nominating myself for Mayor. # quote
 speedblade 2 years ago Lynch MageKing17 Nominate SpeedBlade For Mayor"He desires power so much as to speak for it first, he must be a nefarious professor. However, fellow great minds, you are all cognizant of the fact that the greater the probability of being good, greater is the probability of being the seer. I am the second professor, with the second highest chance of being the seer, so it is wise to nominate me for mayor." # quote
 E_net4 2 years ago "speedblade" said:"He desires power so much as to speak for it first, he must be a nefarious professor. However, fellow great minds, you are all cognizant of the fact that the greater the probability of being good, greater is the probability of being the seer. I am the second professor, with the second highest chance of being the seer, so it is wise to nominate me for mayor."Italics are actually used for Offtopic text. I wouldn't really agree with that, so I'm letting you both argue first. # quote
 Kario 2 years ago lynch magkenig17i nominate endymion for mayorsmageking solely on the fact that he is eviland endymion cuz he's cool # quote
 speedblade 2 years ago "E_net4" said:"speedblade" said:"He desires power so much as to speak for it first, he must be a nefarious professor. However, fellow great minds, you are all cognizant of the fact that the greater the probability of being good, greater is the probability of being the seer. I am the second professor, with the second highest chance of being the seer, so it is wise to nominate me for mayor."Italics are actually used for Offtopic text. "Amarth" said:Welcome to Werewolf 9!Dammit! The caek was a lie!? # quote
 Amarth 2 years ago "speedblade" said:"E_net4" said:"speedblade" said:"He desires power so much as to speak for it first, he must be a nefarious professor. However, fellow great minds, you are all cognizant of the fact that the greater the probability of being good, greater is the probability of being the seer. I am the second professor, with the second highest chance of being the seer, so it is wise to nominate me for mayor."Italics are actually used for Offtopic text. "Amarth" said:Welcome to Werewolf 9!Dammit! The caek was a lie!?*snip img snip size*More precise, italics is for out-of-character. The 'players' wouldn't know this was a game of werewolf. If you say you are a professor, that's kinda in-character.You are thinking about the situation. And then you pour yourself another glass of whiskey, while thinking by yourself 'this is too much to handle for my little brain.'EDIT: also, Kario, Endymion hasn't even said he is candidate for mayor yet. Argh. This is too much for my little brain to handle. No whiskey involved. IIRC. # quote
 speedblade 2 years ago "Amarth" said:Italics is for out-of-character.Where's the artistic, indulgent feel in that? # quote
 Endymion 2 years ago "Murska" said:Hmm. This lynch will be essentially random, for now. Anyone with an 'evil' scry vision, I suppose?I got only good feelings. Hmm... I think I'll vote Murska for mayor.I wonder who number 3 is? He seems to have been a popular target. # quote
 Murska 2 years ago "speedblade" said:Lynch MageKing17 Nominate SpeedBlade For Mayor"He desires power so much as to speak for it first, he must be a nefarious professor. However, fellow great minds, you are all cognizant of the fact that the greater the probability of being good, greater is the probability of being the seer. I am the second professor, with the second highest chance of being the seer, so it is wise to nominate me for mayor."Second, eh?Good Evil Dead 72.93% 27.07% 10.12% 64.42% 35.58% 0.00% 70.63% 29.37% 27.91%71.09% 28.91% 10.20%71.32% 28.68% 0.00% 75.38% 24.62% 12.73%68.48% 31.52% 0.00% 75.84% 24.16% 10.28% 68.40% 31.60% 7.98% 61.50% 38.50% 0.00% Player no. 2 happens to have the highest chance of being evil. # quote
 Anarion 2 years ago I vote for Mageking17 as mayor, and vote to lynch Endymion. # quote
 Grim Reaper 2 years ago "Murska" said:Player no. 2 happens to have the highest chance of being evil.Actually, that's player no. 10 you're thinking of.Grim for mayorLynch KarioAnd no, there's no real reason for either one of those choises. # quote
 Narvius 2 years ago So basically, the only decisive information anyone has is their respective player number and any other player numbers mapped by any means.Grrrreat.Also, lynch Narvius and mayor-vote Narvius. # quote
 Murska 2 years ago Right, sorry, second highest. Damn school computers lagging out and making me unable to see the list to doublecheck.EDIT: Actually... being picked as Mayor probably means you'll be targeted for a few nightkills due to people assuming that if they're the alpha wolf, there's a rather small chance of the mayor being one of the other wolves. :/Then again, that'd shut out their chance of being Alpha in the circumstances the Mayor actually was a wolf. # quote
 Amarth 2 years ago "Narvius" said:Also, lynch Narvius and mayor-vote Narvius. Suicide is not allowed. # quote
 Endymion 2 years ago Lynch Anarion # quote
 E_net4 2 years ago "Amarth" said:"Narvius" said:Also, lynch Narvius and mayor-vote Narvius. Suicide is not allowed. It's not suiciding, technically. I vote to lynch speedblade as he was stupid enough to misunderstand the board. # quote
 MageKing17 2 years ago I vote to lynch speedblade, for trying to lynch me based on extremely dodgy logic. # quote
 Narvius 2 years ago I argue that suiciding is posting a variation of "I kill myself" followed by that person dying, ie. self-lynching is not suicide # quote
 Vacuus 2 years ago I argue that if you're pansy enough to not want to finish the game then you shouldn't have signed up in the first place, whatever you want to call it Anyway, lynch speedblade because it really doesn't matter at this point. # quote
 Narvius 2 years ago You think I really want to die so soon? The vote just doesn't really make a difference. ALSO. @Amarth, explainage. When a person is lynched... is he (or she, except not in this case) dead for good? Or is it seperate for each universe, where the person with most lynch votes is killed, but votes from people who are dead in that universe are ignored? How are ties resolved? No one dies, random, both? # quote
 Amarth 2 years ago "Narvius" said:ALSO. @Amarth, explainage. When a person is lynched... is he (or she, except not in this case) dead for good? Or is it seperate for each universe, where the person with most lynch votes is killed, but votes from people who are dead in that universe are ignored? How are ties resolved? No one dies, random, both?I thought this would have been clear, oops.Lynch is across all universes, because this person's death is a common observation. So the player that is lynched is out of the game, his role gets fixed (as described earlier) and this might have further effects such as seer visions or wolf attacks becoming fixed.Ties are resolved by mayor, obviously. If the mayor isn't involved in the tie, he decides the final outcome in a separate vote between the tied players. # quote
 Murska 2 years ago I vote to lynch Speedblade for being one of the most probably evil people. # quote
 speedblade 2 years ago Woah, guys... just cause I act evil doesn't mean my character is evil! # quote
 E_net4 2 years ago "speedblade" said:Woah, guys... just cause I act evil doesn't mean my character is evil! You weren't just evil, you were not smart. And we want intelligent people solving this. # quote
 Narvius 2 years ago I am away for three days, that is, until some point on saturday. Don't murder my best friend or something meanwhile, kthx? # quote
 E_net4 2 years ago "Narvius" said:I am away for three days, that is, until some point on saturday. Don't murder my best friend or something meanwhile, kthx?Can we really promise that? Owat, double emoticons # quote
 Kario 2 years ago "E_net4" said:You weren't just evil, you were not smart. And we want intelligent people solving this. Like ME!also can we change votes? # quote
 Amarth 2 years ago "Kario" said:also can we change votes?Sure. # quote
 Kario 2 years ago Because i can't vote endymion for mayor i vote MageKing17 for mayor and um... SPEEDBLADE FOR LYNCHMAGEKING BECAUSE HE'S TRUSTWORTHY AND LYNCH SPEEDBLADE BECUZ I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE EVIDENCE AND HAVE CUNCLUDED HIM TO BE THE BAD GUY.DON;T GET MAD AT ME SPEEDBLADE # quote
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